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It was an absolute pleasure to talk with Dan Cunliffe of Pangea recently for the Twisted Copper Pair podcast episode on The Internet of Things (part 2). Dan and his team have returned the favour by featuring our very own Marcus Dacombe on their Vlog. Which you can see here.

Nice to see that they have caught the very best expression for the thumbnail. Thanks guys!

During the conversation we chat through why change can be a real challenge, and why partnering with companies such as Pangea and Copper Road can really help to bridge that gap.